Cookbook for the AXI 2826/12 and Castle ICE 50 Lite & FM-9 series of Timers
By: Norman Whittle
This is a quick set-up for Control Line Stunt using the AXI 2826/12 motor, the Castle Creations ICE 50 Lite ESC, 5S (5 cell) 2600mah battery and the Will Hubin FM-9 timer used as an example. The set-up as described has been tested on my Sultan-e and runs extremely well up at 4650’ and equally well down at 200’ MSL. Typical power consumption for a 5 min 30 sec flight using an APC 13 X 4.5 EP prop running at 9500 RPM is 1550 – 1650mah at Sea level expect to use an additional 200ma. I also have included a connection diagram suggesting methods that work for me. The suggested connections are a minimalist set-up, figuring the reduced number of connections, the less solder joints, the more reliable the system should be. It does not use a resistor for spark suppression, as this is just more complication that is not needed. Sparking is only localized to the connector and any resulting carbon tracks can easily be cleaned with fine steel wool. The basic tenets of this set-up can be used on a variety of combinations such as AXI 2826/10 with 4S batteries or even Plettenberg Orbit 20-16 or - 12. I have used this setup on a Plettenberg 20-16, 5S battery and ICE Lite 50 with great success other components tested and used are Schulze ESC, Phoenix 60 ESC, Scorpion and Hacker 14 pole motors and a variety of Will Hubin’s timers . The components used in this example are:
Motor: The AXI 2826/12 is a 14 pole motor; Kv 760, Maximum efficiency 84 %; Maximum efficiency current 15 - 25 A; Current capacity 37 A / 60 s; Internal Resistance .062 Ω; Shaft diameter 5 mm (.196”); Dimensions (D x L) 35x54 mm (1.38 X 2.125”); Weight with cables 181 g or 6.385oz.
ESC: The Castle Creations ICE Lite 50 ESC; Length 40.6mm (1.6”) Width 26.4mm (1.04”) Height 12.7mm (0.5”); Weight 22.7g (0.8 oz); Max amps 50 amps (5 amp BEC); Max volts 25V 6S LiPo
Battery: ThunderPower G6 5S 2700mah 65C; Dimensions (W x H x L) 36 x 39 x 102 (1.41 x 1.53 x 5.0); Weight 360g (12.7 oz); Charge at 2.7A (1C) up to 12C or 32A; Voltage nominal 18.5V; fully charged voltage 21 vDC or 4.2 vDC per cell
Other Required Items: Castle Creations “Castle Link” software that is downloadable from the following link http://www.castlecreations.com/downloads.html; a Field link card with USB cable or a Castle Link with USB Cable card is used to exchange information with the ESC.
- Charger: A Charger designed for Lipo batteries with balance connector to monitor individual cells when charging. The Charger I use now is the FMA 10S about $140. It can be ordered with the correct balance connector for the ThunderPower battery and can charge 2 5S batteries simultaneously.
- Connectors: For the Battery to ESC - I use the W.S. Deans 2-Pin Ultra Plug. For the motor to ESC and Arming connections I use - Great Planes Gold Plate Bullet Connector Fem 3.5mm and Great Planes Gold Plate Bullet Connector Male 3.5mm. The male connector can be soldered to the wire at a 90 deg angle. This is useful in constructing an arming plug.
Interconnection diagram Fig 1.
Now that you have everything connected, let’s connect the ESC via USB port to the computer. The “Connection Status” in the bottom left hand corner of the Castle Link software should turn green. The software will recognize the type controller and firmware installed in it. It may ask you to update the firmware to the latest version. Eventually you will need to do it so let’s click OK. Firmware will update.
Now click on the “Throttle” Tab; we want to go to Control Line for “Vehicle Type” this will enable both the Governor and Brake simultaneously. “Throttle Type” = Governor Mode. No need for Throttle response. Dropping down to the box labeled “Vehicle Setup Information” click on “Calculate Battery Volt” it will ask you volt per cell and the number of cells. Input 3.7 v and 5 cells respectively. Now click “Enter Motor/Gearing Inform” it will ask for number of Poles = 14 and input 1/1 gearing also it will ask for the Kv rating – in our example it is 760Kv.
I have input three samples of “Desired Head SP” in RPM’s. These will be useful when programming the timer.
Now back to the box labeled “Governor Mode”. Since we are using the AXI 2826/12 and it has 14 poles, we will use “Governor H”. If we were using, for example, a Plettenberg 20-16 with 10 poles we would need to set to “Governor L”; this in effect evokes a different throttle curve. “Governor Gain” is next in the example - I have selected High (35) gain. I have tested this set-up using Custom (45) governor gain with excellent result. This function is really how hard the governor will try to hold the set RPM. One thing to watch for is the motor oscillating if the gain is set too high.
“Head Speed Change” this is the governor response speed setting – be careful here and move slowly up in gain, Custom (15) is still safe on my airplane listen to the Governor coming out of a hard corner, again listen for the governor oscillating or chasing its tail as I have heard it described.
“Initial Spool-up Rate” is how fast the motor will reach full power from start – could be useful for setting up take-off speed and acceleration to take-off. Also see “Motor Start Up power”
It should be noted that several folks use “Set RPM” with great results and find that this function makes the ICE ESC. The Castle Creations folks have a set-up procedure for this on their Web page.
Fig 2.INE Order no. 282612
Let’s go to the Tab labeled “Brake”. I have tried different brake settings and found these to work best on the Sultan-e. Quick clean cut off - prop stopped.
Let’s go to the Tab labeled “Cutoffs”. “Cutoff Volt” is set to Auto Li-Po - this is a safe setting. “ Auto Li-Po Volts/Cell” 3.2 Volts/Cell is good (it shows 3.0 Volts/Cell but 3.2 is safer). With us using only about 1500ma we should never hit either of those voltages. “Current Limiting” I payed for 70 amps - I’m getting it - but you could pay for that in a prop strike. If I was flying on grass I would change the Current Limiting to "Sensitive (xxA)" or Very Sensitive (xxA). Another solution is to not tighten the prop collet as tight as you can. So in case you get a prop strike, prop slipage will keep from burning down your ESC.
Let’s go to the Tab labeled “Motor”. “Motor Start Up power” not a real critical item - medium is a good staring point. Do be careful that it is not too low, as problems with power on takeoff will manifest themselves. You should be at full power at 12-15 feet after start of role. This function also interrelates with “Initial Spool-up Rate”.
“Motor Timing” The ICE controller uses an advanced timing method where the timing is adjusted automatically based on load and RPM. The way the principle designer (Patrick del Castillo) suggests setting our timing is… “I'd suggest you bump the timing up slightly from "low" (using custom setting) until you get the power you want. The lower timing will give you a much more efficient and cooler running system (less wear and tear on the motor too!)”
What you see is my end result; I went from Custom (2) and stepped up incrementally to Custom (4). “Medium (5)” equates to approximately 18 deg from ZCO (EMF crossing zero). I have heard the guys in the Czech Republic recommend 12 deg so a setting of 2-4 is somewhere in the right area.
“Direction” this is self explanatory.
“PWM Rate” set to 8 KHz but others have used 12 KHz successfully. 8 KHz is the most efficient settings for a medium size outrunner. The general rule is the lower the motor’s inductivity, the higher the switching frequency should be. Increasing the switching frequency reduces the ripple in the current flow in part-load mode; but at the same time causes a rise in eddy current losses in the motor and switching losses in the controller. These losses do create heat in both the motor and the ESC. So if you run a higher PWM frequency expect to spend a little more current and generate a little more heat. As rule of thumb for selecting PWM for the motor - try this formula – Motor Kv x Magnetic Pole Count of the Motor x Nominal Volts used then divide by a factor of 20. Then round the answer down to the nearest setting on the ESC PWM Rate.
- Motor Kv 760 x Magnetic Pole Count 14 = (760 x 14 = 10,640 )
- Times Nominal Volts 18.5 vDC = (10,640 x 18.5 =196,840)
- Then divide by a factor of 20 = (196840/20 =9842)
- Round down 9842 = 8000 or 8K
Let’s go to the Tab labeled “Other”. “Power-On Beep” One nice feature is that the ESC beeps every 20 sec when powered up or “armed”; since I set a delay of 27sec on my Will Hubin timer, the ESC will beep 7 sec before the motor spools-up. Also, after landing and your helper forgets to “disarm” the ESC will beep every 20 sec until it is “disarmed”.
“BEC Voltage” this provides voltage to the timer, 5V is correct unless you have a timer that requires more or maybe retracts that could use a higher voltage. Word of caution most timer’s maximum voltage is 5.5 vDC so stay under that.
Let’s go to the Tab labeled “Logging”. This is the section that you set what you want to record. I would suggest on a new airplane you would set to record all you can and set the “Sample Frequency” to much higher sample rate so you don’t miss any information. Maybe 5 or 10Hz but notice the recording time will be only about one flight if sample everything at 10Hz. Of course I would suggest that the first 3-4 flights are of 2 min duration. This will keep you from wasting time if it’s not “just right”.
Another solution to getting more “Data Time” is to sample at high rates such as 10Hz but to reduce the items to sample. Experienced folks have told me that sampling Current, Battery Voltage, RPM and % Throttle should suffice. Do note, logging data could slow down the main function of the ESC that is controlling the motor so high sampling rates could slow down ESC response/effectiveness.
“Logged Data” Click “Download Logged Data” and save the data to a folder on your computer then click “Clear Logged Data” to make room for more recording.
Another example of using increased sample rates is to fine tune individual maneuvers. The example below is from Mr. Peter Germann fine tuning his Wingover by looking at the time it took the aircraft to complete the maneuver (3.6 sec @ a sample rate of 5Hz). Of course this could have a direct correlation to overhead tension if the airplane became slack on the line; current would also vary. As you start looking at the data more and more creative uses will become evident.
Let’s go to the Tab labeled “Software”. “Available Firmware version” - This window is updated when you download the latest version of “Castle Link”. Castle Creations use “Castle Link” software to distribute their Firmware. So you need to log into their Web Site occasionally to check for Software updates that contain Firmware updates applicable for your ESC type. What did he just say? http://www.castlecreations.com/downloads.html
Just a note: Firmware is what drives or controls the internal working of you ESC. The Software “Castle Link” is used to program the parameters that the Firmware uses in its program execution.
Don’t forget to update settings on the bottom right of the ESC screen
“Update” = send all the changes you just made to the ESC. If you don’t tell it to update it won’t do so automatically.
“Default “= Set all settings back to the factory settings.
The bottom left side of the ESC screen
USB is connected - If Green - the USB board or Field controller is connected. Red = not connected.
Device Connection Status - If Green - the ESC is talking to the Computer. Red = not talking.
Note: Also click on any “Blue?” to get additional info on that function
FM-9 Timer: Ok, let’s look at the Timer setup. The primary function of the Timer is to send a pulse-width signals to the ESC for a given duration (flight time); thus, simulating an RC receiver input.
Will Hubin, the manufacturer of the timer used in our set-up, provides very good instructions with his timer and has recently updated his controller box with a new eeROM. If you don’t have the latest chip (eeROM) you can order one from him for a nominal charge.
For our baseline setup you have several options to program in the RPM. The simplest is just to use the direct RPM input. If you are using Castle Creations Firmware 3.20 or earlier you can use the ESC MODE: “Phoenix High RPM”. If you have updated your Firmware to 3.29 or later (higher number) you would use the ESC MODE:
“Phoenix new High RPM” mode to set RPM’s directly. I have found on my motor these settings are within 20-30 RPM tached.
Then there is the ESC MODE: “Phoenix Set RPM” this is a very popular option used by many of the East Coast fliers, although I have very limited experience with this mode. In the “Throttle” section above I have provided a link to the CC page that explains the procedure. The FM-9 timer, in the ESC MODE: Phoenix Set RPM allows you to select one of three RPM that you can program into the ESC.
One other function is the ESC MODE: “Throttle Mode” you can program the RPM as a function of the percentage of power. This % of power closely correlates to the pulse-width information shown in Figure 3 under “Vehicle Setup Information”. Looking at the second example the “Desired Head SP” = 9562 RPM the ESC calculates that you need a throttle setting of 1.430ms (milliseconds) the .430 portion of the number very closely equals to a power setting 43%. In practical application on my Controller/ESC I noticed that the power percentage is about a 1% high in the throttle setting; so I would start a percent low and measure my RPM. Example – My desired RPM is 9562 the ESC needs a pulse-width input of 1.430ms. So, using my Will Hubin Timer Controller I select ESC MODE: “Throttle Mode” set my controller to 42% power and check my RPM. The RPM should be within 75 RPM of desired, if not bump it up or down 0.5% and recheck. Once you get a feel for your combination this is a matter of routine and you will quickly get to the required RPM.
One other new development for the FM-9 series of timers is the “Retract version”. I recently received one for testing and it works very well. I plan to use this version even if I don’t use Retracts. If you do use Retracts – this timer gives you the ability to pull up the gear from 4-59 seconds after spool-up. I would think for dramatic effect you would want to pull the gear up after takeoff and two level laps. The Retracts then come down at the 5 sec warning that you get near the end of flight. One nice thing about this timer it allows you to set additional time, from 0 – 59 seconds, to maintain power after the 5 seconds warning; thus giving the Retracts ample time to fully extend. Of course this last function can also be used without the retracts so if a 5 seconds warning is too short for your taste then you can dial in a few additional seconds.
NOTE: Always hold down the “Start” button when turning on the Controller for programming the timer. Will states this in his instructions in bold.
Let’s talk about Lipo Batteries with 7 Basic questions:
Define the common Lipo terms. 2S, 3S, 4S etc. 20C, 30C etc. 2S, 3S refers to how many cells are wired in series. “S” refers to series - so 2S means 2 cells are wired in series 3S means 3 cells in series. The result is the voltage is an “S” multiple of cell voltage (nominal 3.7 vDC Lipo batteries cell voltage times “S” or 7.4 volts for 2S and 3S equals 11.1 volts). 20C, 30C is a rating that the manufactures place on their batteries to reflect the discharge capability of their batteries. So, on a 20C rated battery you could discharge an 1800 mah capacity battery at 36 amperes. On a 30C 1800 mah rated battery, the maximum discharge rate could be 54 amperes. Note: On some low end batteries this rating is unreliable and caution should be used in discharging at the full rates.
Fully charged what is the voltage of a Lipo cell? Standard Lipo batteries are charged to 4.2 vDC per cell. So if you run a 5S pack, meaning 5 cells in series, the fully charged pack is 21 vDC, although the nominal rating is 18.5 vDC. 5 X 3.7 equaling 18.5 vDC and a fully charged pack is 5 X 4.2 equaling 21 vDC.
Can Lipo cells be run in series and parallel? Yes, they are run in series most of the time but the Pattern Fliers run parallel pack often to gain capacity. Note that the packs are run in parallel but disconnected and charged individually. If you have two 4S packs with 1800 mah capacity and you want to maintain the 14.8 vDC nominal voltage, but increase duration, you could construct a connector that allowed the two packs to be plugged into the ESC in parallel. The capacity would then be 3600mah
As a rule of thumb what is the fastest charge rate for a Lipo pack? The short answer is 1C which means 1 times the rated mah rate of the battery pack. Example if you have a 5S 1800 battery pack then you can charge it at 1800 ma or 1.8 amperes be sure to set the charger to the correct number of cells (5 in this case) and then set charge current to 1.8 a. Some high performance battery cells allow higher charge rates; ThunderPower just came out with cells rated at 12C charge rates and discharge rates at 65C. Meaning that an 1800 mah battery can be charged at 21.6 Amperes and the battery can be discharged at 117 amperes. Wow!
What is the lowest safe discharge voltage of a Lipo cell? Standard Lipo batteries should only be discharged to 3.0 vDC per cell. So, 3.0 vDC X numbers of cells equals 15 vDC. Example on a 5S 1800 battery; 3.0 x 5 or 15 vDC. Many folks set the low voltage cutoff on their ESC to 3.2 vDC per cell - this is conservative but I think prudent.
What is the proper way to store Lipo cells - long term, short term? Short term storage meaning from flying session to flying session (less than a month, normally a week). I store mine charged and ready to go from session to session. Long term meaning over the winter storage store the battery at 3.8 to 3.9 vDC per cell. Check voltage with voltmeter and maintain the charge at 3.8-3.9 vDC for the duration of storage time. Best to keep temperature of batteries at 70-75F.
How real are the fire/explosion dangers of Lipo cells? What is a safe setup to charge Lipo packs unattended? Always think safety. Last question first – don’t leave your batteries to charge unattended. Many batteries have gone up in flames, 99% of the time it is operator error. The most often cause is the wrong kind of charger or wrong settings programmed by the operator. Here are some common sense things to think about, maybe they will save your car or house from going up with your batteries.
- Get a reliable charger that is purpose built for the job of charging Lipo batteries. Learn how to use the charger properly. I know 99% of the folks reading this are male and “we don’t need no stink’ in instructions” but for once read the instructions.
- Get a Lipo charge bag or fireproof container to place your batteries into during charging.
- To transport your batteries follow Paul Walker’s lead and get a fireproof “Safety Box” from Lowes or Home Depot. They are about $25 from Lowe’s.
- Check for bad connections on all parts of your electrical system often.
Hope this “Cookbook” helps some of the new guys and it may even clarify some points for the experienced. Notice this is version 2.0 this of course reflects 10 major revisions with input and data collected from some very knowledgeable folks. So if you have some information or corrections please feel free to e-mail me at WhittleN@msn.com your information will happily be received.
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